Shirky on Groups

So I was talking with Eben about my first real post on blogs and he referred me to an essay:

http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html

Clay Shirky makes some interesting points about web group communication. I think he is absolutely right that groups produce their own enemies and in exactly the same way he describes using Bion's work. What I'm not sure about is his contention that social and technological rules must be viewed together. It seems to me that in every case before an electronic group arises, the technology is necessarily in place. (That technologiy evolves as a group uses it is incontrovertible, but that is a separate issue, I believe.) Social rules must be established in any kind of group whether on the web, in a classroom, in a household or a bank. These are issues my students and I discuss in Humanities 371--indeed this issue was the dominant one in the A-K section of this semester's class. Using the rules of the class (smile) we had to move on to our discussion of Civillization and its Discontents. I'm inviting the continuation of that disucssion here, if the interest still exists.

Fall

I live in the desert so while it is Fall in the World, it is still very much Summer for me and mine. While Summer in fact, it is Fall in spirit, with school having started again, and vacations, for the most part, over.

I had a phone conversation this morning that reminded me I had this blog--although the conversation was not about the blog. Indeed, the conversation was with one my favorite professors and it concerned epistemology. He had written me a letter (which is a kind of old-fashioned blog written to usually just one person, but if to more than one, to *known* persons, which is to say to people that the writer knows and to whom he or she is writing, not to be pedantic) in which he had outlined several killer arguments against two dominant strains of thought in epistemology. I had called him, being of my generation, not his, and not doing that thing called writing letters, to make two points of clarification having to do with his argument. Getting off the phone I realized that this blog was intended to serve as a kind of extended conversation for students who were no longer in classes (should they find it) and any other interested party so I decided to make my first actual blog.

What I had wanted to discuss in the first entry was the impersonal intimacy of email as contrasted with the private-feeling nature of the blog. Many of the people with whom I have intersubjective communications exchange their thoughts with me almost exclusively on email. Others I meet in phone space. I've been thinking that email is de-personalizing in a strange way because it demands an almost immediate response. Immediate responses are not going to be particularly careful. Blogs, and comments, are not required. The blog arises freely, with no urgency. As noted, I had intended to do this earlier and time got away. There is a student from several years ago to whom I owe an email but that failure is more severe. I have been thinking about her, and wanting to write, but as the time slips away the immediate nature of the email is covered over and any response I make now implies a not-caring, even thought that not-caring is not true of my mental state. No one is sad that I did not write the blog. Nor will there be a feeling of betrayal if no one responds to the blog. So the email is at once more intimate (because it shares with the letter the sense of being from this one to that one) but more impersonal (because it is in the context of right now, this minutes). The blog is more personal (as a diary is personal) but less intimate because it is from a persona to no one and everyone.

So the Fall that is not Fall is upon us. And the communicating obligation which is not one has been fulfilled.


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I thought it would be a good idea to have a place where interested colleagues (students and other faculty alike) could continue discussions from class. I will be posting links of interest to the subject matter in my classes here as well as the ocassional review or observation. Welcome

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